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Post by facemelter on Jul 9, 2014 0:45:00 GMT -6
Once Mercury goes into retrograde in October Jenny Death will be released. Once Mercury exits retrograde, the band will have done everything they set out to make musically. It's time to hatch the final step in the art exhibition, make the audience become Death Grips. They will distribute photo-realistic masks of their faces ( they alredy have these made btw) and people all over the world will make their own Death Grips, release their own music, play live and attempt to continue Death Grips after their death. Zach has mentioned in an interview something along the lines of getting Death Grips imposters to go play live, instead of showing up. I believe that when DG didn't show up to their concerts they were giving fans the opportunity to become Death Grips, but the audience just didn't participate. |
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Post by shin0bez on Jul 9, 2014 2:28:16 GMT -6
I really like the novelty in all that.
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Post by edges on Jul 9, 2014 7:06:35 GMT -6
I really wish either that I was at that concert to drum the fuck outta that kit, or that they did more of those shows for that purpose.
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Post by fishtitan on Jul 9, 2014 11:17:07 GMT -6
Either everybody will start making their own DG tribute bands, or they'll just go as MC Ride for Halloween
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Post by voila on Jul 9, 2014 11:25:35 GMT -6
Here is my theory on the whole "conceptual art performance" and the breaking up of Death Grips:
I am taking stuff from the Consequence of Sound article which you can find here:http://consequenceofsound.net/aux-out/death-grips-is-dead-long-live-death-grips/, but I also add my own theories which I have came up with. Ever since the beginning of Death Grips, it seems that "art" has influenced all three members in some way. We can see the photos on their Facebook to see this and in the "I've Seen Footage" music video. However, ever since the ending of their relationship with Epic Records and their first canceled tour, it has seemed evident that they wanted to go further with not just the "visual arts" that Death Grips have been associated with since day one, but to push the band into a more conceptual concepts, both visually and musically.
Of course, then comes "No Love Deep Web," and I don't have to describe the album cover to a board like this. However, there seems to be a more individualist philosophy toward themselves and this album. As Zach describes it, the album cover is supposed to be "fearless" in what it is trying to convey, possibly towards Epic Records. Also in this interview, he talks about the band not being present in person during a performance (which we will get too...) I also think at this time they were trying to experiment with how they sound during the upcoming tour with Andy not being on tour during the late 2012 tour and then Zach being absent with only Andy and Stefan on the mid-2013 tour.
Of course, then comes the infamous "conceptual art" piece at the Bottom Lounge in August of 2013 and the outrage that ensued. However, the article (at least in my mind)talks about it in the most intelligent way I have seen so far. Ever since the beginning of this band,they wanted people to be their own individual and to do it in a creative and artistic way. As the article tells people to read the "suicide note," you can see very clearly on how "art" has influenced this man's life and how it has "kept him alive for so long." In my mind, this was supposed to influence people in the crowd to be their own individual and be fearless while doing it, whether in art or something else.
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Post by voila on Jul 9, 2014 11:47:47 GMT -6
Part 2:
However, it didn't come out the way Death Grips planned it (at least in my mind). Instead, people destroyed the instruments up there and were pissed off about not being "entertained" while missing the whole point of this "conceptual art piece." I think this made Andy, Stefan, and Zach a little bit upset in a way, and it showed that this "art" that was supposed to make people think and act in a positive way was making people act in a negative way without even thinking of it actually may have meant.
Now, this leads me too the No Love music video. Now, this is very much my own theory, but I think it is suitable in this regard. If you watch the video without any context of what happened at the "conceptual art piece" show, it may seem very funny with a text stopping the music video showing say "1000% I USED TO GIVE A FUCK," in all caps. However, after this break up that just happened, it seems to me that this video says a lot more than what was once thought. In my opinion, the text over this crazy performance that is this music video seems tell me of the dissatisfaction of actually performing together as a group, on stage, to just entertain people and in a way, signals the end of Death Grips.
In my opinion, this tour with Nine Inch Nails and Soundgarden,was in Death Grips case, a "social experiment". They knew of the many fans that would come flocking to the show to see Death Grips and wanting to be entertained (me included). However I think Death Grips (as a band) wanted to do more "intellectual" things and felt stuck just doing music. However, this is just my theory and would love to see what people think of it.
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Post by Chance on Jul 9, 2014 12:28:21 GMT -6
^ great theory, but this implies that the dates were planned to be canceled from the start which I'm not sure about...
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Post by melinoe on Jul 9, 2014 12:31:44 GMT -6
Good idea to keep death Grips 'going' in one form or another, nothing stopping little known musicians from undertaking their own conceptual exhibition of sorts and pushing the boundary of a 'band'.
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Post by voila on Jul 9, 2014 12:40:03 GMT -6
I don't know, Chance. It just seemed really pre-planned, at least to me. However, it feels to me that this isn't the end of Death Grips, and I don't mean in a band sense like Jenny Death, but I mean in a more conceptual artistic way.
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Post by trainbitch on Jul 9, 2014 13:07:52 GMT -6
^ great theory, but this implies that the dates were planned to be canceled from the start which I'm not sure about... Something tells me they wouldn't intentionally fuck over Trent like that. Zach said he was looking forward to touring this summer. I think breaking the band up is something they decided on more recently. After they booked the tour. Maybe they were thinking let's record one album, hit the road and do some shit from there, but maybe they really entered the zone and decided to record a double album. What they felt was so powerful that maybe they felt it is impossible to continue knowing they have peaked. They came a full 360 and aren't about to start looping around it again. "Our focus is in maintaining the purity of what we’re doing creatively, keeping the work speaking for itself. We’re music heads, and as fans, it’s often disappointing seeing the artists you respect morph into some kind of talking head—doing underwhelming things that they don’t need to be doing." |
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Post by edges on Jul 9, 2014 13:32:42 GMT -6
^ great theory, but this implies that the dates were planned to be canceled from the start which I'm not sure about... I would like to note the fact that DG 1000% doesn't give a fuck about what people think of them. What could they have possibly lost from pre-planning this non-tour? I'd like to hope they'd have learned from the other tours they canceled, making this one seen more intentional. Wouldn't they have figured out the first time that if they're purely about the music and not as a travelling entertainment group then they probably shouldn't play live? It just seems that way to me. EDIT: another thing: watch the youtube video "zach hill is god". he explains that he derives pleasure solely from drumming. he goes to say that he could drop out of society and drum in the desert and gain the same satisfaction, if not more, without the frustration of travelling and dealing with the garbage that comes with touring. we know they're very lone-wolf kind of guys, zach can't be the only one who feels this way. I wouldn't be surprised if they all just wanted to drop out of the normal world and do what they want on their own, no middlemen. hell I wonder if they even care to release their work to the public. all they've ever been about is pushing their own limits, creation of real and primal art, releasing/being guided by their feelings. I really like what zach says in that video about ego. he battles the fight between creating for personal satisfaction and for glorification. I think it reached a peak with death grips. none of them cared that it was a name-dropper kind of thing. anyone can be death grips. they're just who the sound is coming from currently. [/rant] |
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Post by voila on Jul 9, 2014 13:56:02 GMT -6
^ great theory, but this implies that the dates were planned to be canceled from the start which I'm not sure about... I would like to note the fact that DG 1000% doesn't give a fuck about what people think of them. What could they have possibly lost from pre-planning this non-tour? I'd like to hope they'd have learned from the other tours they canceled, making this one seen more intentional. Wouldn't they have figured out the first time that if they're purely about the music and not as a travelling entertainment group then they probably shouldn't play live? It just seems that way to me. EDIT: another thing: watch the youtube video "zach hill is god". he explains that he derives pleasure solely from drumming. he goes to say that he could drop out of society and drum in the desert and gain the same satisfaction, if not more, without the frustration of travelling and dealing with the garbage that comes with touring. we know they're very lone-wolf kind of guys, zach can't be the only one who feels this way. I wouldn't be surprised if they all just wanted to drop out of the normal world and do what they want on their own, no middlemen. hell I wonder if they even care to release their work to the public. all they've ever been about is pushing their own limits, creation of real and primal art, releasing/being guided by their feelings. I really like what zach says in that video about ego. he battles the fight between creating for personal satisfaction and for glorification. I think it reached a peak with death grips. none of them cared that it was a name-dropper kind of thing. anyone can be death grips. they're just who the sound is coming from currently. [/rant] I agree, and that was what I was trying to get at during the "conceptual art show." Anybody can be Death Grips, and that's why they left the instruments on the stage. However, I don't think the crowd really understood the context of it and just thought Death Grips were being jerks, hence the destruction of the instruments. In my mind, I think they just got tired of this "band" concept and are going to go further with this art thing. |
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Post by poserkiller on Jul 10, 2014 13:54:23 GMT -6
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Post by trainbitch on Jul 12, 2014 11:35:41 GMT -6
I feel like they received a lot of pleasure from the no show. They were posting pics of it on their fb the day after. I doubt they're stupid enough to actually expect an audience to intellectually respond to that. They knew a lot of people were going to be pissed, that's probably the reason why it was a child's cheap play kit. Not some kit actually used by Zach. And it's not like they had interactive Ableton software for the crowd to mess with. Another thing, it's a giant no-no for the audience to be on stage at most venues.
It just doesn't seem to me that their intent was to have the audience actually play on stage. but who really knows
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Post by shin0bez on Jul 14, 2014 8:46:16 GMT -6
They were Zach's drums tho. It was the same drums from the Handcuff video. Observation tells that the kit was no child's kit. They were expensive. Some of my drumming buddies took one look and said the same thing. Does anybody remember people posting pics of the broken pieces they snatched? You can see in those pics they were quality pieces. I have no idea why that one lady said it was a child's kit. She was probably pissed.
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